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lo2
22-06-2006, 19:11
Firstly I hope that it is okay that I write my message in English as I do not speak German.

Well, I am lookig for a drawing, which can draw sketches of triangles, circles and etc. I would like to use it for mathematics papers, so I really hope that you can recommend anything. However I have certain demands which have to be fulfilled, it must be suitable for windows and it must be freeware.
bischi
22-06-2006, 19:17
Firstly I hope that it is okay that I write my message in English as I do not speak German.
Hi - it's not really a problem (so I can improve mine :) ).

What I didn't quite get: Do you want a graphics-programm or some class for direct use in LaTeX?

graphic-programs: Gimp, Zirkel,...
For use in LaTeX: pstricks (especially good for mathematic drawings)

greetings, Bischi
lo2
22-06-2006, 19:24
Well I do not just some sort of thing which can be used for drawing sketches.

Let me give you an example, when solving a cosinus or sinus problem, you mostly calculate angles and lenghts in a triangle. To better show what you are thinking a sketch would be a good idea, but the problem is that it is pretty easy to make one when you are writing it by hand but not when you are writing it by LaTeX, and therefore I would like to know what you could do in such situations.

I hope that I made myself clearer now, if not please ask again.
bischi
22-06-2006, 19:29
The pstricks-package should be your friend. An introduction (in german) where you can see some examples can be found here: http://www.jura.uni-freiburg.de/service/edv-tutorat/latex/dokumentation/pstricks.pdf

Is it that, what you are looking for?

greetz Bischi
Helge
22-06-2006, 19:29
Hi,
for simple sketches I'm just having a try with Ipe (http://ipe.compgeom.org/) (external program). Ist seems to be quick and easy to handle, but I have some problems with getting Latex formulas included (though it is normally possible, seems to be my fault).

But maybe it's a bit too simple for you...

EDIT: it seems to be definatly too simple for you
lo2
22-06-2006, 19:41
The pstricks-package should be your friend. An introduction (in german) where you can see some examples can be found here: http://www.jura.uni-freiburg.de/service/edv-tutorat/latex/dokumentation/pstricks.pdf

Is it that, what you are looking for?

greetz Bischi

Might be a good idea, the only problem is that I am pretty crappy at German, even though I have learned German for five years :) Just do not like the language :rolleyes:
lo2
22-06-2006, 19:43
Another problem is that it look kind of advanced, I was more thinking of an external drawing program which is easy to use.
bischi
22-06-2006, 19:44
Might be a good idea, the only problem is that I am pretty crappy at German, even though I have learned German for five years :) Just do not like the language :rolleyes:
Ah - cmon... German is not that bad... But if you ask my buddy google, he will tell you the path to many pstrick-documentations in english... ;)

greets Bischi

ie: http://www.tex.uniyar.ac.ru/doc/pst_ug.pdf
sofa-surfer
22-06-2006, 19:53
Another problem is that it look kind of advanced, I was more thinking of an external drawing program which is easy to use.

I think you should have a look at gimp.
Its not that handy, but it can do everything that you want ...

matthias
lo2
22-06-2006, 19:59
Well, German is probaly nice if you are able to talk it, but I got a bad grade because of it so I am not that happy about German.

Thank you all very much for your great answer, they really helped me a lot!
lo2
22-06-2006, 20:58
But well I am more looking for a program where you draw by using the mouse, and where you can take what you have drawn and convert it into .jpg, and then you can add it to the LaTeX document.
RedCloud
22-06-2006, 21:01
But well I am more looking for a program where you draw by using the mouse, and where you can take what you have drawn and convert it into .jpg, and then you can add it to the LaTeX document.

totally nonsense converting it to jpeg. This is a format for _real_ pictures, not drawings ...

rc
jonnyx
22-06-2006, 21:47
I'm not sure if i understand what you exactly want to do..

What about using OpenOffice.org Draw or Inkscape?
lo2
22-06-2006, 21:53
That is not nonsence, I want a program that can convert the drawing to a picture .jpg format which you can put into the LaTeX document nothing wrong about that.
countbela666
22-06-2006, 22:47
That is not nonsence, I want a program that can convert the drawing to a picture .jpg format which you can put into the LaTeX document nothing wrong about that.It's nothing wrong about using an external tool to produce a drawing to be put into your document, but converting it to JPG is a quite bad decision. For drawings or schematics a vector graphics format like EPS or PDF should be the format of choice, which both OpenOffice or Gimp are able to export to. And even if--for whatever reason--you want to stick to pixel graphics you should better use PNG instead of JPG, as the former provides lossless compression whereas the latter doesn't.

Regards,
Marcel
Gonse
23-06-2006, 07:21
Hi there,

I had good experience with 'jpicedt'.
It's more or less a graphical front end to pstricks.

One is drawing his figures and at the end you'll get pstricks code to include into latex documents.

Take care,
Stefan
lo2
23-06-2006, 08:04
It sounds like I have a lot to learn, abou this. So if you could advice something what would it then be?
lo2
25-06-2006, 20:27
Oh please come on I am in dire need of some help, so please help!
Gonse
25-06-2006, 21:14
You got many good hints!
What is most convenient to you, you have to get to know by yourself.

Regards,
Stefan
lo2
26-06-2006, 09:59
You got many good hints!
What is most convenient to you, you have to get to know by yourself.

Regards,
Stefan

But well I have not quite tried it yet. But I would like you to like advice me, as I am sure many of you have tried something like this before. I am not that good at LaTeX, and I do not know if I can figure out all that advanced stuff so therefore I would it to be a thing where you can draw something and then paste that into the LaTeX document, but I have not found a proper method so far, so come on some of you must know something about it.
countbela666
26-06-2006, 10:14
As already mentioned some times before: use OpenOffice or Gimp to produce your drawings, export to PDF and include these files via \includegraphics{foo} into your document.

Regards,
Marcel
bischi
26-06-2006, 17:38
And if you prefer code to mouse-clicking, then you can choose pstricks.

Greetings Bischi
Gonse
26-06-2006, 18:05
But well I have not quite tried it yet.


but I have not found a proper method


.........................


Gosh!
lo2
27-06-2006, 16:56
As already mentioned some times before: use OpenOffice or Gimp to produce your drawings, export to PDF and include these files via \includegraphics{foo} into your document.

Regards,
Marcel

Where can I find those programs please post some links to a site from which I can download them.
countbela666
27-06-2006, 17:31
Where can I find those programs please post some links to a site from which I can download them.You don't really mean that, do you? Ever heard of google..?

http://www.openoffice.org/
http://gimp.org/
lo2
27-06-2006, 18:28
You don't really mean that, do you? Ever heard of google..?

http://www.openoffice.org/
http://gimp.org/

Sure I have. I just though that you might have some good sites, that was why.
lo2
14-07-2006, 08:51
I know I have got a lot of help but I just think that any of it has been any useful so far, so therefore I am asking to really pull yourself together and give me some proper information.
bischi
14-07-2006, 09:14
therefore I am asking to really pull yourself together and give me some proper information.

Of course! About what??

greets Bischi
lo2
14-07-2006, 20:14
When you are doing math, a long with your calculations and answers you sometimes should draw a sketch or a graph. The latter I cannot do in LaTeX. That is why I am requesting for help. So what do you do?
sofa-surfer
14-07-2006, 20:40
I think everything was said above:

For drawing graphs programs like GnuPlot (http://www.gnuplot.info/) or R (http://www.r-project.org/) can do everything you want. Besides the package pstricks (http://tug.org/PSTricks/main.cgi/) also allows you to do the thing directly in LaTeX.

For drawing sketches you may use Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/?lang=en), Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) or Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org/).

Our problem is, that we don't see what your problem is. We gave you some hints about programs to use. Unless you don't come up with a more specific question we can't do anything else for you ...

Matthias
lo2
23-11-2006, 14:43
Hi,
for simple sketches I'm just having a try with Ipe (http://ipe.compgeom.org/) (external program). Ist seems to be quick and easy to handle, but I have some problems with getting Latex formulas included (though it is normally possible, seems to be my fault).

But maybe it's a bit too simple for you...

EDIT: it seems to be definatly too simple for you

And how do you include that in your LaTeX document?
oracle2025
25-11-2006, 11:58
Hi,

I don't know whether it works on windows too, but I prefer to use xfig, a very nice drawing program. If you have access to a linux-box, you might want to have a try. Maybe it is available for cygwin under Windows.
oracle2025
25-11-2006, 11:59
http://www.schmidt-web-berlin.de/winfig/